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http://www.icbm.org/erkson/ttt/front_suspension_system.html Everyone, If you go to http://www.icbm.org/erkson/index.html there is a link on the top left of the web page labeled, "Search this web site...". It makes looking for stuff on my web site fairly easy. I try to put useful info on my site as I see fit. Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed '95 VW Jetta III GL 2.0L, P-Chipped, Jamex sport suspension Portland, Oregon, http://www.icbm.org/ >-----Original Message----- >When lowering the front end, do both the upper and >lower control arms need to be raised or just the lower >arms? ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org