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[T3] Jim you were so right (was: Floor pan replacement)


At 09:37 AM 4/16/2001 -0500, Jim Adney wrote:
>Rust thru seldom happens right straight thru panel. It ALWAYS
>happens at a seam where water can seep in by capillary action
>and get trapped between 2 or more layer of metal. At the front and
>top of the rear fender well you will find a number of places where
>multiple sheets meet and join. These joints are usually sealed with
>undercoating or tar. This stuff hardens in time and pulls away from
>the underlying metal, leaving another place where capillary action
>can cause water to accumulate. Go under there and pull off all the
>loose stuff you can find. You will discover places where the
>underlying metal is gone.


Hi All-

Well, after pulling out *everything* in the interior (incl rear seat and 
armrests) in search of the leak spot Jim suggested I try to find (I had 
previously thought my rust thru happened under the battery) I found the 
culprit on the passenger side, and is it UG-LY. Basically it was in the 
exact spot Jim described... I've got a 2 foot long "vein" of rust (now a 
1/4 inch gap after I used a brush and screwdriver to remove the 
powdered/rusted/decayed former-metal) running from just above the point 
where the armrest meets the fender well, continuing down behind the 
seatback attachment point and ending up in an ugly hole directly below the 
seatback attachment point on the side wall. Furthermore, I noticed that 
there is light  rust running the rest of the way around the fender well all 
the way back to the rear hatch (all on the right/passenger side).

Thus, now in addition to replacing the passenger floorpan between the 
backseat footwell and the battery area I've got to deal with this rust zone 
as well. I take it I will need to pull off the rear fender and the tire to 
get a good look at the extent of the rust, but beyond that I'm not sure 
what needs to happen. Based on information I've gleaned from Jim's last 
response and related responses like Toby's, I assume I will need to have 
the body shop (the same place doing the floorpan) excise the rusted areas 
and replace them with sheet metal. I would then paint the whole area 
(including lightly rusted areas that haven't rusted through) with POR-15, 
then apply the roofing tar w/ fiberglass cloth on the outside in the wheel 
well. Does this sound right? Any hints/tips/warnings? TIA everybody and 
thanks again Jim!

David Y.
68 Square

PS  I am really bummed about this especially since it all happened "on my 
watch." It's not as much the time or the money, but rather the POINT. I 
grew up in the square and have been the car's custodian since 1984 when my 
parents (the original owners) let me have it, and I have thought over the 
years that I have taken great care of it: despite its 230K miles it's been 
in California its whole life, and I can count the times it was driven in 
the snow. Anyway, I thought it was essentially "rust free". As if! Before 
ripping out my carpet a few weeks ago to put in the new kit I could never 
have dreamed I had such extensive rust damage... some custodian I am! My 
lifelong friend is ailing and it's all my fault!!!!!!!!!!  <sniffle> :(

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