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> The metro buses here in Portland have installed red brake LEDs and amber > turn signal LEDs -- makes seeing the buses much easier! Hey, amber turn signals and red stop signals - what an idea! Now where have I heard of that before? The delay for incandescent lamps is about 5 seconds for the 6-volt bulbs on my Beetle, but the 6-volt Variant (Square) I used to have didn't seem to have the same problem. Dave. UK VW Type 3&4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org