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Keith wrote: "If the beam isn't rusted or bent you WANT to save it!!" Well, sure, everyone wants me to save it in the abstract, myself included. But when it comes to actually WANTING it, it's another question entirely. I mean, I already have an extra front end in great condition taking up space in my basement, and another one that's needs work but isn't rusty. I'm all for saving parts, but without anyone who wants to USE the parts, it doesn't quite amount to recycling. It starts to look more like a weird obsession, a bizarre fetishization of used car parts, and I'll end up with a funny obit in the Baltimore Sun when the city finds me crushed under type3 parts in a house filled to the ceiling with them. I mean, I've saved stuff I'm sure nobody will ever use. Does anybody want a couple of those hot air mufflers that go under the rear seat? How about a windshield washer fluid bottle? Glove box door? Under door air vent hoses and fittings? : ) Seriously, though, how about rear hubs? I see that RMMW sells 'em, but who'd need one? Do they ever go bad? xé = 's the stabilizers taht are larger on the squares and you want to save that and at least the left upper torsion arm. Save the lower torsion arms and seals if the arms aren't bent as they bend easily, I d save the lower bars too.. they break. and OH the bump stops." Well, if your encouragement works and I decide to save any of it, I'll just drop the whole front end, and save it all as a package. That's the probably the most efficient way. I thought that the torsion bars in the REAR suspension were what was larger in the late (?) squares. Are there any variations in the rear suspension torsion bars over the years and/or accross the different models? Eric Forsman, '73 Square Baltimore, MD cc replies to: forsman/harris@jhu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe