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Like I said above, I'm confused, so if I missed what's going on I'm sure many of you will be eager to correct me. <<<Actually, Toby; you're not confused. My car has just been adulterated to the point that I just misled the hell out of Aedan. All of these nice, labelled handles and loops don't exist on my late Square; fallen victim to the FPO, no doubt. My seat bottom just rocks forward (no latch), and my seat back just comes forward with a quick jerk (and I'm not that quick). Sigh. More impossible to find parts to replace. James 'but it *looked* so good' MacNaughton. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/