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Hmmmm.. First off.. always put old socks on the ends of your bumpers to keep them from scratching the fenders when you put them on. I put NOS 67 bumpers on my 65 Notch and the front fit perfectly. I was however running a later front apron and front fenders. The rear I did have to grind down a litt楀H t but at the time I blamed it on the fact that the rear fenders may not have been fitting close enough to the rear apron. I had done alot of reconstruction back there. I dont think the fenders or widths were different so you may be looking at something else. Keith ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/