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Per, if you want the full info on 4-pot (4 pistons per caliper) bleeding etc, I'll send you a .gif of the technical pages. BTW, the small p´Os¤also used on all pre-72 Type 3s with discs and non-US 1500 and 1600 Beetles, as well as all(?) disc braked T1 Ghias. The 411 type (larger) are needed for the 72-on with normal brakes (not M594, with strengthened braking system). I've just checked the parts book; the 4-pot calipers do use the early pads! The only difference in the kit is a Type 2 retaining pin. The pistons must be small if 2 of them have got room to push on the early pads. How about that, Jim? Dave. UK VW Type 3&4 Club www.hallvw.clara.net/ -----Original Message----- From: Per Lindgren <lindgre@online.no> To: type3 <type3@vwtype3.org> Date: 03 March 1999 01:56 Subject: Re: [T3] Pressure in water bottle..... >Yep, the 4-pots, I ordered a set of pads for my car once, I must say I felt >quite smart when I found out they were too large to fit. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe