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> If the vin number is before 221 975 then it would be a 63. The "S" started in the 64 model year of Aug 63 production. This is what my VW T3 parts book states. For curiosity why do you ask? > Oh, no reason. :) Actually, I came across a '63, VIN# puts it as produced near October, 1962 but it's a factory "S" model. All the cosmetic "S" attributes are there and appear original - chrome strips on the side, folding arm rest in the back, big arm rests, dual carbs., etc.. It was purchased in Germany and used there for a while then brought over here, maybe that makes a difference? Everett Barnes -------------------------------------------r鶃---------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/