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Glad to have you aboard. Now, many of us would like to know more about what you said, "I have been running type 4 engines in my 3's for many years..." as there are several of us who (eventually) want to put a T4 in a T3. So far, of all the people who do it none have done a decent job of detailing the process. If ya can help us I'll put a good word in for ya to the Dark Side committee ;) Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member '95 VW Jetta GL 2ç–çingly bone-stock Portland, Oregon, http://www.pobox.com/~toby_erkson/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org