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Mike wrote: "How, with these shocks, do the mounts become load-bearing as opposed to using any other shocks?" My understanding is that regular shocks don't carry any of the weight of the car, but simply work as dampners แมห down the play of the suspension. The load of the car is carried by either springs or, in our case, torsion bars (which are a kind of spring, too). I don't know exactly what YOUR shocks do; but I was assuming that when you pump them up, the shocks become more resistant to downward (but not upward) pressure from the car, and the car actually rises, as they assume some of the load of the car's weight. However, maybe the shocks you have just become stiffer, and simply more resistant to movement either up or down. Old VW type2s are also quite susceptible to the saggy ass syndrome; and people frequently add coil springs over the shocks, or air shocks. My '74 has springs over the KYBs in the back, put there by a previous owner; and I can't say that I've noticed any adverse affects. However, when I get this car into the garage for the body work I want to do on it, I'm going to take them off, because I don't know if the person who put them on knew what they were doing, and I know that I certainly don't. I've heard that these things can cause some bad handling characteristics, which is already something of a problem in a bus. You probably have more room for error with type3s, but unless you understand all the reasoning of the VW engineers who designed this system, you'd probably be best off not second guessing their work. Oh, and my '73 Square (not on the road at the moment) has some PO installed coils over the shocks too; and these are actually hitting the mounts, and making a good clank/crunch noise, when I give the bumper a good downward push. In addition to being ill advised, these seem to be poorly installed also. I thought of this when you mentioned crunching noises. Eric Forsman Baltimore, MD ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe