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I remember my dad dropping a small metal ball (was part of the air cleaner or something...I was 11!!) into a cylinder and he took mom's Kirby vacuum and taped a hose 1/8" big to it .....Mom raising hell about him tearing the vacuum up and all...he sucked the thing right out and it went through the tube and bent the sh*t out of the impellor(sp) on the vacuum!!!!! Might also suck out some stick. If you turn the motor over a few times you may break it up into smaller peices and suck it out that way. This would be less detrimental than letting the engine burn it and puke it out. Although I doubt that any ham would be done by that. Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/