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In a message dated 98-09-04 12:58:40 EDT, you write: << and there are always people bickering about this and that. It really seems to be a contest of knowledge a lot of the time and it does get old after a while. This list is much more enjoyable, >> You raelly can not equate, busses are aplety, and are more or less like type1, easy to figure out. But, for a bunch of people to willfuly drive and fall in love with a vw that is hardly recognizable by other bugheads let alone others, that knowingly has no after market, and is (sometimes) Fuel Injected ??!. Those people will have to be confidant and/or nuts enough not to bother with such bland human traits as looking prettier or smarter than the other guy. Its a different microcosm, and I'm happy with it. HB 70 sq ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org