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JimA=> when you remove this part of an engine there is always a => surprising amount of dirt there. I've never actually seen one in place, but isn't there also supposed to be a seal of some sort between the front tin and the body? I have the front tin and my engine still gets a lot dustier than I'd like. KeithP=> Im tired of sticking pins in my balls so I can hit the right => spot with the spray, they seem to wander. Ow, that's gotta hurt! Have you considered just letting them swing and concentrating on your hose angle? Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org