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I bought one from So Cal Imports I tried to install it. It didn't fit at all I thought it was me. So when the uposterer came to install my headliner, I had him take a crack at it he had no luck either (he specializes in VW's) when I took it back to So. Cal Imports I got the guy behind the counter (the short tubby one) to admit to me that they don't fit. I talked to Bill of Bill and Steve's, and he said that most vendors are getting their dashes from the same place and they generally don't fit well. Lisa Mitchell Los Angeles, Cal. 1963 Suicide door Sunroof Notch ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org