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I would think that taking the hills on I17 before Sunset point (heading from Phx to Prescott) at 45 mph in an air cooled VW is pretty good. God knows most take it slower. especially on the caravan to Jerome. I've notcied my 1800cc water pumper struggling a bit on those hills too. In my opinion, I wouldnt worry about it too much, just dont push it too hard. Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/