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In a message dated 98-11-13 21:42:08 EST, you write: <<It isn't just static weight distribution, it's the 'wheelie' syndrome. There's a rotational torque which helps the grip on the rear on acceleration that doesn't work as much with front wheel drive (unless you are going in reverse, I guess). >> Old trick we used in the Saab in heavy Vermont snows....turn it around and back it up ice and snow covered hills. I used this trick last year in my wife's Passat. Frankly, this "weight shift traction" is one of the reasons my '67 "deer- crusher" square is my winter driver! Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe