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Ah, I missed a paragraph. Okay, the fuel pump itself makes the ticking (really a slow buzzing would be more accurate in my opinion), and it's located in the front of the car, on the passenger side (I'm pretty certain, it's been a while). Make sure the lines to the pump and to the injectors are clear, no leaks. There is a screen at the fuel outlet of the gas tank, right where the fuel line connects to the tank, that is often clogged (especially after two years!), as well as a fuel filter before the fuel pump, which can clog as well. If the screen, filter, and lines are replaced/clear; and you can hear the fuel pump whirring/buzzing; then your fuel pump is defective, buzzing or not. You should be able to test the out put with a clamp and a fresh line running from the pump outlet to a separate gas can. Make sure the line won't blow out of the hole in the gas can, turn the key on and (assuming it starts spraying gas) off again. Be careful, though, as at 25 or so psi, the gas will spray unrestrained like 8 feet (personal experience, there); quite a geyser, if you're not expecting it. Might not be a bad idea to get the gas tank out, too; and take it to a place that will boil it out and test it. I took mine to a radiator shop, and they boiled, cleaned and tested it for leaks, pretty cheap. The gas turns to varnish fairly quickly, and that plays hell with all of the delicate FI parts (it does on carbs, too, but they're a lot less specific on clearances). Your problem sounds like a screen/filter dealie, though. But the pump could be shot, make sure there's gas getting to the pump in plenty, and then check the pump. I don't think you'll be able to hear the injectors ticking, as I think they only tick when the FI trigger points are activated (that is done by the rotating camshaft on the distributor, meaning the car has to be turning over/running for that to happen). The books that everybody talks about are pretty much invaluable, and you should invest soon, if you haven't. There's also some fairly plainly spoken information linked to the 'Owner's Manual' section of the www.type3@vwtype3.org <mailto:www.type3@vwtype3.org> site, that is pretty helpful. Where are you located? Perhaps a more experienced listee and you could hook up and talk shop... -----Original Message----- From: Robert Braun [SMTP:vwsquare@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 1:07 PM To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: Re: FW: [T3] The Virgin or here we go again... > Whoa, hold on there, Robert! You just said yourself, that the fuel outlet > on the pump is dry, and you can't hear the ticking when you turn the key on. > And you're going to junk the FI? I don't care *what* carburetors you put on > there, if they aren't getting any more gas than your FI is getting now, they > won't run any better either. I assumed that the fuel injectors would make that ticking noise regardless if they were getting fuel or not... I know not what makes the "ticking" sound.. .please explain.... A trained > (paranoid?) person can feel the floor pan/fire wall buzzing slightly > (through your feet); but it's easy to hear just by standing outside the car > by the front, when somebody inside the car turns the key. I can hear that from inside the car alone.... > Until you get that taken care of, you are getting no fuel; so you will get > no go, whether it's from carbs, FI, or Hogan's Goat trying to deliver gas. so what do you suggest??? Robert '73 broken back _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/