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Oops, the true scoop from Keith: > I hate the bolt on's! the alum idea is a nice one as their quieter but > they leak at the bolt opening and can loosen up. I have gone through > dozens of bolt seals over the years. Okay (gulp), does anyone know where I can buy a case of bolt seals????? Phil dillard@suu.edu "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks."