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Hey Volks, I wanna replace my stock and ripping headliner (note to self: snowboards have sharp edges) but, after hearing the experiences of others, it is one of those tasks that I'd rather have some other sucker, er, person do. Anyone know how much it would cost ? I'm just looking for an average so I can see if I can afford it or not. For those of you who did it yourself did you have to remove the window seals or can you just tuck it in? All of my seals are in very good condition and I don't wanna buy new ones. Lucky for me (?) I have that big ol' ragtop hole so maybe it won't be too bad. And what about the pillars? Are they part of the headliner kits or are they a separate 'part'? Thoughts? Toby "more projects than time or money" Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member Portland, Oregon, http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/