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Sorry about the fwd, I'm not really "back" from vacation yet.. Received: from localhost (localhost) by compassnet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with internal id LAA24533; Sat, 9 May 1998 11:05:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 11:05:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON> Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: vwtype3.com: host not found) Message-Id: <199805091605.LAA24533@compassnet.com> To: <concept@compassnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="LAA24533.894729921/compassnet.com" The original message was received at Sat, 9 May 1998 11:05:19 -0500 (CDT) from ts-hou1-11-19.compassnet.com [198.66.160.120] ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- <type3@vwtype3.com> (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 <type3@vwtype3.com>... Host unknown (Name server: vwtype3.com: host not found) Reporting-MTA: dns; compassnet.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; ts-hou1-11-19.compassnet.com Arrival-Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 11:05:19 -0500 (CDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; type3@vwtype3.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.2 Remote-MTA: DNS; vwtype3.com Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 11:05:21 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: concept@compassnet.com Received: from compassnet.com (ts-hou1-11-19.compassnet.com [198.66.160.120]) by compassnet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24531 for <type3@vwtype3.com>; Sat, 9 May 1998 11:05:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <35549ACD.FCB926B0@compassnet.com> Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 11:05:03 -0700 From: Allen Moore <concept@compassnet.com> Reply-To: concept@compassnet.com Organization: Conceptual Decisions Computer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: type3@vwtype3.com Subject: 1971 Sqaure Reverse Pop Out Legal Matters References: <35496E0B.89B6B357@protozoa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Misshell: While I am not a lawyer, I do have a good legal sense and have successfully litigated against a business or two in my lifetime. Here are some questions and comments I have for you. Sorry for this late response, I've just returned from vacation. 1. What state are you in? 2. I am located in Texas where we have a very strong deceptive trade practices law. Most states have these, and if you feel you have been "done wrong" by a shop, this can really work in your favor. 3. First of all, as strange as this sounds, you really shouldn't have stopped payment on that check. This can open a can of worms for you and the shop can put a mechanics lien on your car which can even lead to repossession of the vehicle! So pay them first to limit your exposure. With mechanics you have to pay them and attempt recovery later. 4. Next, send them a "registered, certified" letter addressed to the owner of the shop (make sure you send it to "Mr. Insert Name c/o Shop name". In this letter outline exactly what you feel they did wrong to your car. Also state if you feel they told you you were getting something new and they didn't provide it. In other words, outline anything that they told you they did and you feel that (or have proof thereof) that they didn't. Then in this letter tell them that if your complaint is not adequately addressed in the next 30 days (you have to give them time to respond and attempt a remedy for you case) you will take legal action against them and hold them accountable for any losses and legal fees that you have encountered. This USUALLY will get them moving to remedy your situation. SAVE the return receipt you get back from this letter, this will be proof that you sent it and the shop received it! Also save a copy of the letter you sent too. 5. If they don't respond, you can then contact a lawyer, OR you can do it yourself in "pro se" or small claims court. You can get more information on this by going to your town hall and asking what your local procedure is. In small claims court, you do not need a lawyer, but you have to demonstrate to the presiding judge that you honestly tried to resolve this issue with the shop in good faith. If you have documentation of what dates you called them on, your original mechanics order outlining what they were supposed to do to your car, etc. all the better. Please note that in most states, the judge will not order the shop to fix your car right, but rather will offer you compensatory damages ($$) instead. 6. One thing you will have to do is to weed out all the unimportant information and just present the facts. They judge won't want to hear anything not really important. Hope this helps! Respectfully, Allen Moore concept@compassnet.com 70' Square misshell wrote: > I have a 1971 Squareback. The shifter would sometimes pop out when I > had it in reverse. However the gear did NOT pop out. I took it to a > shop for some other reasons and I asked them to explain why it popped > out of reverse. They said I needed a new shift mechanism and it would > cost $150.00. They told me if I did not get it fixed it would ruin the > transmission. After they "fixed" the shifter it started to grind gears, > and it was very difficult to get it into any gear. Especially first and > third. Just 1 day later it completely stuck in first gear. They told > me that because I forced it into first gear, which I did not do, that > the transmission was now ruined. They told me that it would cost me $ > 800.00 to replace the transmission and they said my clutch was shot > too. I have been driving a manual transmission car for over 10 years > now, I did not think there was a problem with the clutch. They went > ahead and "replaced" it. But when I drove it out of the shop, it was > worse then ever, and they had it for nearly 3 weeks. When the shop > owner would not return my calls I stopped payment on the check. Now I > am being sued by the mechanics check guarantee service for the money. I > had the Consumer Bureau of Auto Repair investigate this and they only > wrote them up on paperwork violations. I want to sue this mechanic, > can anyone help me? It would help me a lot if people could offer their > insight who have experienced similar problems with their VW. I love my > car, I think the mechanic ripped me off, I did not force it into first > gear. Not to mention that I never had problems with the stick shifter > other than an occasional pop out in reverse, that is I never had > problems until the mechanic worked on it. > > Us VW owners must stick together, can anyone help me???????? > > Michele