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Also......if anyone is curious.......the Audi A4 1.8 Turbo motor will be in the Beetle next year. I looked at it.....and I saw a shipment of them come into the dealer while I was there. 8 sold at this dealer with 40 deposits! My take on it is I DIG IT. I liked the ratcheting seats(pull up(ratchet) you go up, push down (ratchet) you go down). If you pull on the handle (finger lever) up high on the seat while sitting in the back seat, the seat moves forward and tilt up and out of the way for easy exit. You kinda have to see it to understand it. Nice lift hatch, fold down seats, cool gauge and color, nice steering wheel and shifter. Decent vision all around the car for safety....not much of a blind spot on this VW. Ash tray is an option! :-)$$$ Ok....here is what I didn't like.......the dash is like the Mid Western Plains. Its about 3 and a half feet deep.....it looks it anyway, and I wasn't too keen on the rinky dink job on the bud vase. Well....enough of my opinions. My 2 cents worth......but hey........to each his own! Jeff.....bka.....chicknwing! ---------- From: Josh Curtis[SMTP:joshcurt@ptd.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 11:38 AM To: mike lee; type-3@umich.edu; vintagvw@sjsuvm1.sjsu.edu; vwnona@ixpres.com; Sppinner@aol.com Subject: Re: Re:the new beetle,been there done that My closest dealer only has one in it is red. But I saw a white one in the town that I work in (some lucky guy must of bean first on the list) The new beetle is based on the golf 4 chassis that will also be out this year. From everything I have read and talking to some friends at a couple of VW shops the only cars being made this year are the 50,000 4 cylinders gas and desiel. Next year if the demand it high they might put a VR6 in it but if they did it would probably be the 5 valve per cylinder VR6. VW will also in early 99 release a all wheel drive VR6 golf gti with the 5 valve per cylinder engine. This is all from mags and talking to VW dealers (so if I am wrong please shoot me I want a all wheel drive VW, if you are going to kill yourself do it right.) ___________________________________________________________ Josh Curtis joshcurt@ptd.net <mailto:joshcurt@ptd.net> 69fastbk@vwtype.org <mailto:69fastbk@vwtype.org> http://home.ptd.net/~joshcurt Stop and take a look at the coolest VW page around http://www.vwtype3.org -----Original Message----- Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 1:17 AM Subject: Re:the new beetle,been there done that well last saturday, hanson motors in olymia wa got the fisrt of the new beetles in.the're o.k. i mean they look cool ,i went for aride in one and it drives like the chassis it 's built on,an a-3 golf.my friend odered one , it should be in next month:)the dealership said they could get a vr6 in it. i don't know how acurrate that is but it's what he said.and he some have some coin in his pocket ,if ya know what i mean. mike 72 fb