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4" is quite the drop. You will need lower profile tires to clear the fenders, which will lower your ride more, and the ride is gonna suck in terms of comfort, high speed steerability, and ground clearance. You will need to use stiff shocks...KYB come to mind. You probably can use the same ones a lowered T1 uses. I'm not knocking you wanting to lower the car, mine is lowered so I do have a little experience on what's gonna happen and just letting you know. Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email responses '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member Portland, Oregon, http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Dropped Spindle Questions Author: ZzZxXt3 [SMTP:ZzZxXt3@aol.com] at MSXGATE Date: 3/13/98 3:20 PM Does anyone have any dropped spindles for sale?? Also , my car will be lowered about 4 in after the spindles are installed. What type of front shock should i use lowered or standard, and why? Thanx Chris 68 fastback