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at the price jim quoted you can purchase a zero mile brand new vw motor that many of the adverisers are pushing. this motor is a universal/dual relief/dual port/new everything vw assembled motor. if you add up all the brand new parts alone you will easily exceed the price of the motor if priced out. and that says nothing about the time/labor/tools/and experiance required to build a vw motor. a friend of mine just purchased one for his 60 single cab and if you decide you want a BIG motor break that one apart for the heads/case/lifters/bearings/internal goodies and such. new heads are no less than 95.00 ea and cases new are 320.00 and flywheels regrind are 50.00.lets not talk about all the specs and lapping valves and the list goes on and on. if you want make a list of every part you will need for the longblock build up. and total it and compare. believe me ill never build another 1600cc ground up unless ive got all the parts and it isnt going to cost me much. now unless your wanting to keep the original motor in there than you have no choice but rebuild. just do you homework. because ive seen ALOT of stupid shit done to a motor by a so called "professional engine builder" speaking of such i had the pleasure of tearing down a bernie bergman motor and ill tell you im not in the least impressed. if you want to know some of the big problems than write me direct cause i dont want to get on a rant. c-ya Jonce good luck in what ever you decide. At 10:11 PM 3/13/98 -0600, you wrote: >On 13 Mar 98 at 13:56, vw57dlx wrote: > >> I have a '66 Square that needs her engine rebuilt. This one has lasted >> 116,000 without ever being apart from the transmission. I was hoping to >> get the same kind of life out of rebuilding the stock engine. Am i >> looking for a miracle here? I would think that most of the engine parts >> would be of higher quality with all of the technology we have today. But >> then again, some people will only buy NOS german parts. Because as we >> all know, the germans did make high quality cars & parts. So i am >> basically looking for advice & opinions. I want to know you're personal >> experiences with different engine rebuilds. How long the rebuild lasted, >> how much you spent(if you don't mind), if you did it yourself, & what >> kind of parts are good & bad to use. If anybody would be kind enough to >> take the time & tell me your experinces, i would be grateful. Please >> e-mail me privately, unless other people are interested also. > >You can do a really nice "stock" rebuild for about $1000, or >less if you stick to straight stock. This assumes you do your own >work, except for the valve job. Done right, it should last as long >as the original. If you add a cross-drilled counterweighted crank >(67-) then you should do better. > >116k is not unusual for the later years, but for a 66 you've done >well. Did some particular part fail, or did you just feel that the >engine was "tired" and hoped for an improvement? > >Jim >- >******************************* >Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org >Madison, Wisconsin, USA >******************************* > > Jonce Fancher 56 singlecab 66 sunroof bug very nice for sale 66 variant square back 71 sunroof bus 92 jetta gl winter car 94 ford probe GT (wifes car)