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James, They mean the park of the stick that you initially grab, not the actual part that sticks in the oil. Yes, you would receive a nasty burn if you grabbed the oil level indication part :o Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com <-- Please use this address for email responses '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L, ORPCA member Portland, Oregon, http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: oil temp Author: John R. Jetty [SMTP:jjetty@pahrump.com] at MSXGATE Date: 3/2/98 10:24 PM ok I got a question. I have seen people say that if you can not hold the dipstick that the engine is to hot. But I have never been able t pull up buy gas and even touch the dip stick and not get burnt fingers on any car I have ever driven ??????? Is this true or just BS ?????????? James