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In a message dated 7/20/98 7:09:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, type3-d- request@vwtype3.org writes: << how many times I've bashed my shins on those. Functional and cool looking. Does the mod cut down at all on the backfire Monzas are prone to? >> Yep, it's a little "smoother" sounding now. Not quite so "raspy" Though I'm not entirely convinced that part of the noise that I'm getting from the rear isn't intake noise as well as exhaust ( 1776 motor fed by duel weber 40's ) when I really get on it. Dan