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In a message dated 12/20/98 12:16:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, mooneyed@webtv.net writes: > when it idles it surges up and then down til it almost dies and then back up it does > this continuously while it runs at idle you almost certainly have an intake air leak. usually this occurs at the boots where the intake manifolds connect to the air intake distributor. try twiddling them round a bit to see if this helps it. it should at least make some difference. if you can't totally cure it, these are probably really old and stretched and won't make a good seal, therefore you'll need new ones. the other possibility is that your intake manifold gaskets/spacers are shot. try them if the boots seem ok. sonny ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org