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J. Adney wrote: <<There are two possibilities. The most likely one is that the person who built your engine was familiar with beetles and installed the distributor drive gear in the beetle (wrong for type 3) position. You can verify this by pulling off the right valve cover and turning the engine by hand until BOTH #1 valves are open AND the TDC mark on the fan pulley is up. THEN pull the distributor and look at the orientation of the drive gear notch--compart it with the picture in the Bentley manual. If this is your problem, correcting it is not a job for a novice or the faint-hearted. One slip can mean complete disassembly of the engine.>> Its that washer at the bottom of the distributor, right? I've been reading about that coat hanger trick and I don't like the sound of it. <<The second possibility is that someone has disassembled your distributor and reassembled it incorrectly. This is an easy mistake to make, and will result in a 180 degree error. I can fix this easily, but if you are not familiar with the Bosch distributor you are likely to do more harm than good.>> In this case, what do I do? Pull out the distributor and mail it to you? What is the effect of 180 degree error? <<Pinging is a bad sign. It can cause real mechanical damage to your engine. See if higher octane gas will correct it. If so, it means that your compression ratio is too high for the gas you are using.>> Only problem there is, I'm using the higest octane available. I only buy the good stuff. What else could it be? Muir says maybe timing; is that true? -Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/