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Hello to you all On this subject of Type 3 Automatic transmissions: They were first offered in Germany in late 1967, they went to America the following year and came to South Africa in 1969. The Variant was the only 4 cylinder stationwagon at that time in South Africa to offer the option of going automatic.These days it seems that most of the decent Type 3's still on the road here are automatic. I have an original genuine Volkswagen workshop manual for the Type 3 automatic transmission. Just ask if you want some info! > Type IV A/T are identical by the way, except for the gear ratio. > I think the early type II A/T were also the same. > Martin, 69 A/T Square Volkswagenwerk AG code-named their first automatic transmission as 003. This transmission went into many different vehicles (T3, T4, Audi 80 etc.) The mecanicals of the transmission in all these cars are identical. There are however differences in how the various selector cables and kickdown systems connect to the different transmissions. The ratio of the planetary gear set in all these transmissions are identical too. Because of the fact that the transmission and the differential are in two different housings, one can - to a certain extent - interchange transmissions between different models without ill effect. I know for a fact that a transmission from a T4 or Audi 80 can be installed in a T3 and it will work properly as long as the govenor is swopped as well. (Govenors and valve bodies are matched to one another at the factory and may not be interchanged.) The transmission is an extremely durable one. Mine ran untouched (apart from scheduled oil changes) for 28 years and 197 000 miles. Someone else said something about interchanging automatic and manual transmissions on the same car. As far as I know, this is not possible unless major alterations are done to the chassis. Automatic chassii do not have clutch tubes and there is no provision for fitting the manual transmission's selector rod, shift plate and gear shift lever. The same applied for the manual chassis. The pedal cluster is, obviously, also different! If at some later stage, in order to save on production costs, VW made the two chassii more interchangeable; it will be news to me. Interesting thought thou. One can use the IRS from an automatic chassis on a manual chassis and versa vica. Just my R0,02 worth. Regards Adriaan Loedolff adriaan@norton.ctech.ac.za '69 Variant Automatic (200 000 miles + and still cruisin' after all of these years!)