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Duuuude, Karma man! Lesson #1 is you always help an air-cooled bud. Maybe early panel vans are as common as milkweed pollen down under, but if I was there, I would have offered help. Who knows, he might have had a box of rotors rattling around in there! Of all the social groups one might choose to pursue identification with, the VW community is best in my book. I think it's because we all understand each others problems, hehehe. We all gotta keep the scene moving forward and closer, and that means lending a wrench to those less fortunate from time to time. Curt 70 sb "Betty" 75 Westy >About 30 miles from Cape Town I catch up with a clapped out and >smoking '57 (I think) type 2 panel van doing a little over 35 mph. >1.) Never laugh at someone else's clapped out VW. There might be a >time when his is running and yours not.