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Yes, it's a T4 and the engine is NOT a Porsche engine, it's a Type IV engine. The 914 uses a VW Type IV engine (ever so slightly modified by Porsche, though). How does one identify the difference between a 411 and 412? Toby Erkson, air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L Portland, Oregon, http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: FWD FS 74 Sqbk N Calif Author: type-3-errors@umich.edu at SMTPGATE Date: 11/6/97 8:36 AM In the description of the car, it's not even a squareback, it's a Type 4. The description says it is a 5 door hatchback. That means there are 4 passengers doors, and the hatch. So what is it, a 411 or a 412? Stuart ... > Turns out, he has another car for sale, and having just seen it, >I must offer it here first, before they do something crazy and put an ad >in the paper. > Details are: 1974 VW Stationwagen (yes, a station wagen, sorry, >no more buses) 90,000 original one owner miles on a small Porsche engine. Auto trans. 5 door hatchback, beautiful black interior, roof rack, great exterior, saw NO dents, OR rust...