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At 08:31 2.11.1997, Melissa & Jim wrote: [big snip] * As I recall, fastbacks came with only a driver's side mirror, but the * door on the other side had what looked like a flat painted dimpled * plug in a hole that could be removed to install a second mirror. Other Type 3's also came with the mirror hole plugged; as far as I can tell, this plug was color matched to the paint code just like fender welting and or the front moustache chrome seal. I have come across a few of these plugs still packaged in their plastic VW bags, and it wasn't until I removed mine and added a right hand side mirror that I finally figured out what they were. Then to make things even more interesting for Fastback owner's, there was the M233 option: simplified version like 311 (311 - 314). This model does not even have a plugged mirror hole (nor a lot of other accessories - no clock, no passenger side sun visor, no chrome trim, simplified steering wheel etc.). * I know that if you remove a stock mirror from a car that came with it * you will see that there is a large nut welded to the inside of the * sheet metal. Does anyone know if the "far side" door on a fastback * actually already has that nut in place and how you remove the "plug?" * Is it possible that some (later?) notches came with similar "plugs" * in the far side doors? I have never seen this nut. I will again check the doors that I have and see if it is in there. Aside from the threads in the right side door of my Square, there was not a nut and the mirror that I bought simply screwed into place. * > I have often thought about finding a good original Squareback right * > side door from a 1963 to convert my two Notchbacks to the (very cool * > & useful) dual mirror arrangement. Why not just buy two NOS mirrors? The newer Hella mirrors are much bigger than the OE and it makes for much improved vision. * Would be nice, but probably hard to find. True. If there are any RHD Squareback owners that have a left side door mirror hole plugged ... I have an original mirror for you! This is getting to confusing. Over and out. Patrick