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>Very hesitating but getting more enthousiastic with every turn of the >starting motor the engine started running! First a bit caughing and >stammeringbut after a minute it ran smooth and sounded like an awaken >princess afterbeing kissed by her prince. It's alive! (and KICKING) I had a similar experience when I bought a 73 fastback for parts for $200. It had been sitting outside in the weeds for about 3 years, unstarted. Before that the PO told me he'd driven it about a hundred yards a day to the end of the mailbox. It was pretty rusty, an obvious basket case, but it had an automatic and a fairly good interior, amongst other things. On the truck home, the gas tank rotted through and dump gallons of varnish all over everything. Shortly after Betty burned a valve on a road trip, her motor was tired, and I thought whatthehell, I'll give the other motor a shot and rebuild the original. Man, this thing had no push-rod tube gaskets (yick) and when I took the tin off, I discovered that the fan had sucked all the insulation out of the fenders, and it was packed on top of the cylanders like a jello mold. The oil cooler was totally blocked with crud. Who know's how long they'd driven it like this! Not to mention the wasp's nests, mouse droppings, etc. Cleaned it up (whew!), torqued everything down and slapped it in and damned if the thing didn't fire right up! No leaks or anything. After 4000 miles it's still going quite strong. Is it just me, or does it seem that the people who just don't care or have a clue about their VW's go the farthest? "Yup, drove that thang furover 10 years. Dint change the oil or nuthin." Curt 70 sb 75 Westy