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Wow, I am a dummy!! I didn't think about having drums in the front!! That wouldn't be such a hot thing to have to deal with. I am still bummed at the limitations of 4 bolt rims for VW's. The 8 spokes are nice but too wide for lowered ride and will rub the rear fenders. What about those 2-liter Porsche rims that lots of the pro 'backs have? I have never seen them in the magazines, how wide are those? Derrick