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I have found that I can tell pretty closely when my car is too hot by the smell. Try it screw up you timing and drive around until the idiot light comes on at idle and then get out and put your nose to the vents(doesn't matter if they are forward or backward vents here) There just seems to be this definitive smell. kinda like Burning oil but not quite the only smell. Of course I don't really recommend doing this but that's how I learned. Trust me once you have smelled it you never forget! The smell is right before the loss of power or the blown motor. Jason Renville ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I would rather attempt something great and Fail than attempt nothing and succeed. Jason_Renville@ccm.al.intel.com Portland, OR USA 69 Fastback second owner. Now Mandatory Disclaimer Views expressed in this posting are my own and not those of Intel Corp. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: Re: Yet Another Timing Question - FI Author: type-3-errors@umich.edu at SMTPGATE Date: 7/25/97 3:56 PM > I don't know how it is for stockers, but I know that the timing on my > engine makes a difference. Just a degree or two separates my engine from > running too hot or just right. I never thought a simple little thing like > that would make such a difference. I'm curious - how do you know it's running hot if you do not have an oil temp gauge (other than the obvious loss of power or the blowing of your engine...) Speaking of gauges, what is the best method for running additional wiring back to the engine compartment for tach, oil senders, etc.? I remember the previous owner of my '67 had the wiring running on the bottom of the pan but that seems inadvisable. I took a look under the rear seat for a hole and the only thing I could see that seemed plausible would be to run them through the hole/seal where the battery to starter cable is. Or drill another hole but I hate to do that... Any suggestions? Thanks, Everett Barnes ebus@ebus.simplenet.com 1955 Kombi / 1965 Squareback S Transporter site: http://ebus.simplenet.com/Volkswagen