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I don't know how it is for stockers, but I know that the timing on my engine makes a difference. Just a degree or two separates my engine from running too hot or just right. I never thought a simple little thing like that would make such a difference. Toby "always amazed at the little things in (VW) life" Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L for sale Portland, Oregon http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Yet Another Timing Question - FI Author: type-3-errors@umich.edu at SMTPGATE Date: 7/24/97 8:48 PM OK - 69' Square, 1600 FI. The case is universal and I don't know what year. Because I don't know the year I don't know where it should be timed. Can I just use the oil Static timing Light method? this is how I did it in the past but it seems to be running hot. Any ideas?? What else may be causing her (yes, her name is Dolly) to be running hot, bad oil cooler? Oh - I looked and looked but didn't find an engine number...yet. Thanks - Wilson 69'Square