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T-3 Trivia Time ANSWERS!


>From: "Alan W. Presley" <awpresley@earthlink.net>

>1. "Do you know if the front
>windshield for the T3's are all the same for the years 63-66, regardless
>of squareback/fastback/notchback?"
>
>Yes and No.  Although there was laminated (Safety Glass) and non
>laminated, they all exchange within the same year. There IS a difference
>in size/shape though. In my parts book (suppliment 11) lists up to Part
>number 311 845 101 F (F means there were 5 versions prior to this one).

Could be 6; don't forget the number with no suffix.  Could be less; 
sometimes some letters seemed to get skipped.  How about tinted glass?  I 
have one that seems to be tinted from the factory, but I've never seen that 
listed as an option.

>For '63-66, windshield glass, VW showed up to chassis number 310 2074
>068 ('70 model? this number looks a little strange.) with one
>replacement and after 310 2074 069 with another replacement.  

This was when VW added the extra metal strips that helped lock the 
windshield in place.  This required a windshield a bit smaller all around 
and a different weatherstrip also.  The opening in the body remained 
unchanged, however, so an old windshield will fit if the metal strips are 
removed.

>2. On the fender beading subject, how many colors of T-3 beading were
>there?
>
>Would you believe 25?  According to ol' suppliment 11, there was 041
>black (duh.), 087 pearl white, 282 lotus white, 360 sea blue, 456 ruby
>red, 469 anthracite, 511 birch green, 512 velvet green, 539 Baltic blue,
>563 safari beige, 568 sea sand, 575 nutria brown, 610 Delta green, our
>favorite 620 savanna beige, 630 coblat blue, 633 VW blue, 650 Granada
>red, 30 A royal red, 50 B diamond blue, 50 F regatta blue, 60 B Peru
>green, 66 B deep sea green, 70 F chinchilla (OOOooo.) and 90 C toga
>white.  

add: 20D Clementine, 60D Elm Green, 90D Pastel White, 31V Colorado Red, 12D 
Shantung Yellow, 31F Iberian Red, 50D Sapphire Blue, 54D Marina Blue, 91D 
Kansas Beige, 885 Gemini Blue, 10B Texas Yellow, 20B Brilliant Orange, 30B 
Kagan Red, 51B Gentian Blue, 60S Turquoise, 89C Brown, 96U Alaska Blue, 96L 
Marathon Blue. That's 18 more unless I duplicated some.  There are probably 
some errors in my list because my copy quality is poor, and this list is 
probably still not complete.  Wow, what drudgery!  Why are we doing this?

>3. Fenders, I heard a question about fenders... ok, maybe it was about
>T-3 front turn signals, but it influenced the fenders too.  How many
>versions of right side PRE '70 model year front fenders were there?
>
>15, yes F I F T E E N.  
>
>Let's start with the turn signals. First there were bullets starting
>from '62 through '69, then there were the thin wraparounds introduced in
>Aug of '63, [the fastback was introduced in Aug '65]  The thick
>wraparounds were not introduced until the '70 model year and lasted
>until the end.  OK, that equals two versions.  Then there were the
>highly coveted side marker lights for the European markets.  OK, 2 turn
>signals x 2 marker versions (with and without). Then keep in mind the
>"Standard" or non-deluxe versions (bullet turn signals & no chrome
>strips near the top of the fenders) and the fact that there was a
>Standard with and without side markers, then the versions after '68 that
>had the external gas door (did you forget?) and finally the sealed beam
>headlight and bulb versions.  

68 and 69 were different: different filler flap opening shape!  I missed 
with/without the trim strip, but wouldn't sealed beam/small bulb take the 
same fender on a type III?  Did these ever come with the radio antenna hole 
on the right side?

So I get these basic styles:

early bullet, no filler flap
early wraparound, no filler flap
late bullet, 68 filler flap
late bullet, 69 filler flap

x 2 for w/wo side marker lights
x 2 for w/wo trim strip holes

This gives me 4 x 2 x 2 = 16 possibilities, but I don't know if all of these 
actually existed.  For example the 69 may not have been available without 
the trim strip AND without the side marker light.

Jim
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       Melissa Kepner                                    Jim Adney
       jadney@vwtype3.org              jadney@vwtype3.org
                             Laura Kepner-Adney
                             Madison, Wisconsin
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