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Didn't we have a discussion about this before? Maybe it was the VintageVW list? I think it was determined that a tow bar should not be used in place of the bumper unless there was no rust on the body. If you tried to tow a rusty vehicle by the bod you might tear the front sheet metal. I seem to remember someone making one that bolted to the fromnt axle??? Anyone have some of the messages archived??? Jason Renville ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I would rather attempt something great and Fail than attempt nothing and succeed. Jason_Renville@ccm.al.intel.com 69 Fastback second owner. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It consists of a round tube with a piece of flat bar at each end and replaces the stock bumper. A stock Bug towbar attaches to the round tube. After the trip we decided that a