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---------------------------- Forwarded with Changes --------------------------- From: Owner-timjones@giza.estinc.com at SMTPGATE Date: 2/10/97 1:11AM *To: timjones@giza.estinc.com at SMTPGATE Subject: WARNING! FUEL INJECTOR CLEANING! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is sorta long but I was wondering if anyone who regularly works with FI has any comments on what to use to properly clean the injectors. Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback 1.6L modified to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 stock 1.8L ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: WARNING! FUEL INJECTOR CLEANING! Author: Owner-timjones@giza.estinc.com at SMTPGATE Date: 2/10/97 1:11 AM HyperNews notification. Reply via: http://www.estinc.com/HyperNews/get/forums/trouble/133.html Greetings to readers of Tim's 914 Fan Web Page: I would wish that others might profit from my screw-up. I am not absolutely certain of the failure mechanism, but I have now had my third fuel injector failure in the span of a week, and it looks as though I will be replacing all four. As near as I can tell, this is because of a cleaning technique that I employed some time ago. The technique was as follows: I operated the injectors on the bench using a bench power supply, and while operated (valve electrically held open with application of D.C.), I sprayed Gumout carburettor cleaner through the injectors. They were observed to operate normally at this time, including normal on-off valve action, and good spray cones resulting as the carburettor cleaner was sprayed through them. No attempt was made to flush the injectors with anything after this procedure, and they were put away wet. Some months later, upon trying to fire up the car, I had two injectors fail, which were replaced with two new ones. Between shipping delays and work, the next opportunity to change the injectors and try again was approximately a week following the first time. Upon starting the car, it was discovered that one of the previously working injectors had also failed, in like manner as the first two. The failure mode is that there is no characteristic "rattle" when power is applied, and the injector valve mechanism is stuck. The stick point may be either entirely closed (no fuel flow) or partially closed (considerable leakage, but not full flow). The conjectured failure mechanism is chemical damage to internal plastic parts (possibly valve seat?) by the carburettor cleaner. This has turned into a $280. "oops", allowing for an average market price of $70. per injector. I have since consulted with a friend who owns an airplane, and he tells me that the ONLY thing that is permitted for use as a cleaning solvent on aircraft fuel injectors is 90+% isopropyl alcohol. Therefore, my conclusion must be: DON'T clean your fuel injectors using ANY of the popular carburettor cleaners that come in spray cans! USE NO EXTREME SOLVENTS WHATSOEVER!! The aircraft injectors mentioned above are mechanical types, not electronic as used in the 914, therefore I am not even sure that alcohol is safe for our use. The only thing that we know for sure that is safe to introduce into the injector is fuel; therefore, I would recommend that ONLY CLEAN FUEL be used as an injector cleaning solvent. Good Luck, ...