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Re: (fwd) (re: engine tin painting


On 31 Dec 97, Veeduber wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> I'm sure you're correct.
> 
> I'm equally sure that it doesn't really matter,

This may  be the most important fact.  I got an email that agreed 
that everything I claimed was true and that it made all of 4-6 deg 
difference.  He said it as if he had seen actual figures, so this is 
interesting.  It is true that radiative cooling is pretty weak at low 
temps like these, so it may be totally pointless to worry about it.

> It appears that so long as the blower is spinning the shrouding does not
> absorb an appreciable amount of heat.  Or, if it does, it is immediately
> carried away by the air-flow within the shrouding.

The latter was my contention, so cool tin would be consistent with 
either no heat load, or good cooling by that layer of air next to the 
tin.  I'm afraid this doesn't help us decide which theory is right.

> Now consider this:  Let us say that you treat your shrouding with something
> that makes it transparent to radiated thermal energy, or as nearly so as you
> can get it.  Where does that radiated heat go?
> 
> I suggest it goes into your engine compartment, and from there, into the
> blower... and back over your engine.

That would be the case in a T! or T2 engine, and I'll have to admit 
that I was thinking only of the T3 engine were the cooling air is 
pulled in separately.  Still, it the sheet tin absorbs a significant 
amount of heat, I think most of it would be carried off by the active 
airflow on the inside and a lesser amount would make it to the 
outside.  this is just because there will be a temp differential 
between the inside and outside, caused by the flow of heat in that 
direction and the finite thermal conductivity of the metal, two paint 
layers, and two interfaces.
 
> Personally, I'm content to follow Volkswagen's lead when it comes to the color
> of the engine's tin-ware.  Over the years I've seen stock VW automotive and
> industrial engines painted gray, black, yellow, green, olive drab and red.  

Really?  Very Interesting?  Probably your best argument.  Black was 
probably just cheap and an easy compromise.

> And now Propane Blue, of course :-)

thanks for the mental exercise.

Jim
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