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I am currently running a scat drag-fast shifter in my 65 Notch. Although there is no engine in the car at present, the shifting is smooth as glass, and the throw is a lot shorter. Its great for those pretend drives! (C'mon we've all done it!) Boyd Drew 1965 Notchback 1500s boyddrew@us.ibm.com http:\\www.geocities.com/motorcity/7151