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I can go along with Keith! I had the same experience. Tried it myself with a NOS rubber bought at VW. No way! Went to a professional. They put two suction pads on the outside. Through those a belt going inside the car with a tension pulley block (also used against load shifting on the back of an open truck or so) with which they pulled the window in. While doing this we were also pushing and tapping on the window. With three of the pro's and me and a buddy of mine it costed at least two houres work and a lot of sweat. After paying the standard price i left, at each bump hoping the windshield wouldn't come out with the same force we had put it in. btw: We started at the bottom and worked our way up. Richard At 14:39 10-12-97 EST, you wrote: > >DONT DO IT!! You'll break your windshield! They are #^%%^$ to install! > >It took the professionals 3hours to do mine and well worth the $35 they charged. >Many will travel to the car as well. > >keith > >