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I have no clue to the worth of a Pinto or Vega except I think that the engineer who designed them should, nay must, be executed (way ugly cars, way!). Anyhoo, tell your friend we aren't in it for the money. It goes deeper than explanation. It's a knowing nod, an understanding eye, that binds our enthusiasm (oh, and in my case, a touch of lustful stupidity). Toby "nod, wink" Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L for sale Portland, Oregon http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Help! lost my archives! Author: type-3-errors@umich.edu at SMTPGATE Date: 8/25/97 1:20 PM ... Just as a side thought, a friend of mine remarked, "I wonder if all those VW people would be as enthusiastic if their cars were worth as much as a Pinto or a Vega?" I probably would, but it might be much more difficult... Theo B.