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Not dumb and actually rather legitimate. Nope, you don't have to do a thing to the upper trailing arm (known as the upper stabilizer arm). Just move the lower torsion arm one notch and everything will be hunky-dory (uh, that's stupid American talk for 'okay'). Just make sure that you have the front end aligned as soon as you adjust the front ride height! I would recommend, however, that you don't lower the front end so it will match the ride height of the rear end as you are not really fixing the problem. What you should do is replace the rear torsion bars in your aging Fastback. The bars are the springs in the rear suspension. The bars actually twist and it's their resistance to twist that create a spring effect that give you a soft ride. Over time the ability of the bars to hold their spring (their ability to not twist) diminishes and doing so causes the rear end to sag (this is true for the front but the butt of a air cooled VW is much heavier thus they get more work). Though it costs more to do it, it is the proper way to restore stock ride height and keep your baby in good running condition (this rule applies to all of the VW's that use torsion bars in their suspension, be it front or back). Another option to lowering the front end to match the rear is to install adjustable spring plates at the rear end. These allow one to fine tune the rear ride height. Another option is to use air adjustable shock absorbers. Remember, these options hide the problem just like lowering the front end does. Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 stock 1.8L for sale ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Which trailing arm? Author: type-3-errors@umich.edu at SMTPGATE Date: 4/4/97 2:01 PM OK, now this might seem as a really dumb question to all you vets out there, but I just want to make sure before I really screw things up. I'm getting ready to lower the front of the Fastback to even the car out. The rear is sagging a bit. I read through the article in VW Trends on lowering the T3 front end. It talks all about using the lower trailing arm to lower the car. What about the upper trailing arm? Do you need to move that one too? If not, do you have to modify anything so it all fits again? I only want to go one notch, so its nothing extreme. Any help will be much appreciated. One final thing: Greg, can I have your snail mail address? My uncle wants to send you a pic of his T34 Ghia and a writeup on it. We aren't technically advanced enuf for a scanner. Thanks again! Cayson Ellsworth 68 Fastback 72 Super