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What would be really nice is if someone constructed an extension pipe that ran from the exhaust collector to the side of the vehicle which would have a flange to attach the Stinger. An L-shaped pipe would allow the Stinger to point its exhaust to the side of the vehicle, or an S-shaped pipe would still allow the Stinger to point to the rear but its physical location would be on the outside edge of the vehicle (like the exit of a standard muffler). Imagine a {-shaped bracket, a Stinger on each side of the vehicle... :P Anyway, those are two good choices. I know the Turbo Tuck (sp?) will only fit the Bug due to the Bug's more open fender structure. Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com modified '72 Squareback stock '75 Porsche 914 ****** Toby, Been there done that, I took two flanges (that matched the bolt patern of the system.) and an old J-tube, cut the pipe to fit, welded, and bolted the stinger to the adapter. You HAVE to have a LONG stinger or you will get most of the exhaust back up into the engine compartment. (by the way you need to cut the pipe to angle the stinger down, not straight, to fit and to allow the passing airflow to push the fumes out the back!) This gives you the sound, but not the risk of direct engine damage from a rearend bump. And Pat MAKE SURE YOU GET A TYPE 3 SYSTEM, a bug system will NOT work! Big Al awpresley@earthlink.net