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Hmmm, 3-point belts in the back...the way I like to drive that's a pretty good idea :) I had thought about generic units but decided I would prefer the German stockers -- though I certainly wouldn't scoff at Porsche, BMW or Mercedes units! I think I'll try Jim's idea of (blah) cleaning the belts and lubing the springs. It just snowed up here in Oregon yesterday so maybe I'll be stuck this weekend workin' on 'em. Speaking of snow, I was reminded of how the T3 heating system is lacking (Northerners, I feel for ya!). A friend at work suggested engineering a water circulation system around the exhaust system. I was thinking of putting copper tubing across the top of the engine, through the firewall and another radiator into the cabin, somewhere. Fill with water and add a water pump (maybe a fish tank one?). Or, same setup but pump air from the cabin into the tubing with the exit pipe into the cabin. I don't know, any ideas? Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com modified '72 VW Squareback 2.0L stock '75 Porsche 914 1.8L ______________________________ Reply Separator ________________________________ _ Subject: Seatbelts Author: type-3-errors@umich.edu at SMTPGATE Date: 11/19/96 8:04 AM We have replaced the 3 point harnesses for the front seats of our '71 SQB with just generic replacment units. They bolt into the existing holes (each side of the central tunnel hump, 3/4 way up the pillar behind the door and on the side near the base of the rear seat.) The new retractor housing sits in latter location and has to sit tilted towards the front a bit, but otherwise they work great. We also replaced the regular lap belts in the rear with the same type of 3 point harness. I had to weld a nut just above the rear fender well, beneath the window to mount the retractor units. The upper nut on the 'C' pillar was already there so it was a fairly easy modification. Dave -- Dave Burden | 1924 Studebaker Special Six Touring Car Digital Equipment Corporation | 1926 Studebaker Estate Wagon (hearse w/seats) Alpharetta, GA | 1957 BMW Isetta 300 convertible burden_d@warlrd.enet.dec.com | 1971 VW Squareback