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NOT! Jim's right. Got FI? Gotta have diaphram. John Muir was reffering to the carburated models (bug, bus, etc.). They can work without the diaphram. The FI HAS to have it. Actually, I am a fan of the dual (dia & mech) advance myself. But they don't work on the FI either. Big AL awpresley@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~awpresley/t3cpp.html