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i don't recommaned using teh 1/2" breaker bars unless you have a lifetimewarranty and are near teh hardware store. I used to have a "HUSKY" (home depot) brank i have returned it i say around 10 or more times cause i broke it trying to remove my axle nuts with my 7' breaker bar(lead pipe) . most times it twisted the "nipple" clean off Eric VW Blue 1968 Fastback awaiting a darkside resto http://www.members.home.com/jim.leslie/darkside_resto.html ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org