Re: [T3] Model Year

[Rodney <hockeylove69@yahoo.com>]

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org>
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:27:43 AM
Subject: [T3] Model Year

On 31 Aug 2007 at 7:16, Rodney wrote:

> --- Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 30 Aug 2007 at 18:43, Rodney wrote:
> > 
> > > '67 Fastback I believe,
> > 
> > The second digit of your VIN is the same as your
> > car's model year. 
> > Check it and make sure.

> I think you mean 3rd digit like 319 would be 69 and
> 317 would be a 67, 

Yes, you're quite right. 3rd digit.

> however on my particular car I have two numbers. The
number on the plate up
> front near the hood latch is 317 but the number
stamped on the pan is a 319 so
> I believe that it is a 67 body on a 69 frame... thus
the "I think..." I have
> also been told that it may just be the front of the
car that is a 67 and the
> rest could be a 69, add to this no number on the
engine and I am very
> confused about exactly what I have... 

When you say 317, I assume you mean the VIN, which
would actually be 317xxxxxx.
There is also another number on that front plate which
is just 3 digits long 
which is the body style number and is always confused
with the VIN because it 
looks like it should be the same. A 317 body style
would have been a Notchback, 
however.

It is probably just a '67 front end, a repair after a
previous accident, but 
there are lots of differences between those years that
might clear up the 
question.  

A 67 would have had low-back seats, dual Solex carbs,
and a swing-axle 
transmission.

A 69 would have had high-back seats, FI, and an IRS
transmission.

Any of these things could have been changed, so you
would have to look closely 
and know what to look for to tell exactly what has
been changed. If there are 
any signs that this car was ever FI, then it is a '67

Perhaps the best indicator would be that VW started
putting ground wires on 
everything in '69. You'd have to know where to look
for these

In general, your motor vehicle dept. will take the pan
number as the official 
one.

-- 
Jim Adney
jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, WI USA

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Yeah I did mean the vin number 317xxxxxx on the plate
in the front and 319xxxxxx stamped into the "frame"
underneath the back seat. My hood release is under the
dash on the left (drivers side) of the car, I do have
the low back seats and dual Solex carbs I don't know
how to tell the difference between IRS and a swing
axle transmission but I do have the  CV  joints/boots
that come off the trans-axle. The wiring on the car is
so screwed up it's unreal. There is a rats nest of
wires underneath the dash and it seems like I find a
new loose wire every time I examine a different part
of the car closely. When I was looking underneath the
car I found one wound around where the torsion bars
are, who knows what that goes to... Someday soon I am
going to get a completely new wiring harness for it
and solve those problems. Of course there still will
be all of the other "little" problems like the glove
box, new interior, all new seals...etc..etc...etc





Rodney Schofield
Northeast Ohio
'69(maybe)'67 Fastback


       
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