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On 19 Sep 2006 at 7:54, fess wrote: > Here's 4 different mirrors, [ 2 per photo, fronts and backs. ] > > http://herbie.ddv.com/~fess/type3/issues/mirrors/mirrors.html > > 1. came with my '67 in the extra parts box. seems like the small oval > mirrors but is larger. > > 2. purchased as a "type III all years" mirror over the web for my '72, > doesn't > seem right for my '72. Now I some that are a similar shape but better > quality on my '67 which I think are flat 4. 2 looks to me like it could be a '67 mirror. > 3. the mirror that came with my '72. [ looks kind of like the bug > mirror. ] This looks like a correct late mirror, but it looks to me like it should be a left mirror for a RHD car. Notice that the stems are long on some and short on others. In general, the long stems go on the side opposite the driver; the extra length is necessary to get the mirror out where it's visible from the far side. I can't see for sure, but it MAY have the beetle style locknut (see below) on it. > 4. a late model after market bug mirror purchased from CIP1. > > So, I'm still wondering: > > what did the correct mirror for a '72 look like? Like # 3. > how many styles of type III mirrors were there? In a given year there were 4: LHD Right, LHD Left, RHD Right, &RHD Left. 68 and maybe 69 were the same shape as the later ones, but had a different (and inferior) mount that wasn't easily vertically adjustable. So that makes 8 different mirrors for 68-73, but those all have the same shape mirror, like your # 3. Within types, there were differences that I believe were due to who actually made them for VW, but they were all the same general design and shape. The differences show up in the shape of the metal where the arm joins to the metal body behind the mirror. Earlier mirrors were smaller, but someone else will have to explain the history. > was a type III mirror ever the same as the type I mirror? At least for the later years, the beetle mirrors had the same shape as the type 3 mirrors. In fact, the only difference was the "nut" that tightened against the face of the door. The type 3 nut fits flat against the door, while the beetle nut has a cylindrical section that fits down inside the door. The type 3 nut uses a plain flat translucent plastic washer under it, while the beetle one got a formed black seal. If you change those parts, I don't think you can tell the difference: One converts exactly to the other. -- ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~