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In a message dated 3/3/06 10:57:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, fisherfarms@uwol.net writes: << Yeah, window winder, not door handle! My 67 Square has what looks like slots for c-clips, but no c-clips. Everett says no cross pins, so I guess I'll have to "muscle" them with my Chanelock pliers. Mike >> Mike, I guess I should have mentioned the window winder handle too. :O Yeah, 67 should have a "C" clip similar to GM's, but the clip and slots are thinner so your GM clip tool won't work here. You could build a copy of one out of some thin banding metal (or some thin metal that you have laying around) that would work quite nicely. I did this for my own use, and it works great. If I remember correctly the clip is only about 1/32nd of an inch in diameter (sectional), so you see it's pretty thin. I hope this helps. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof and IRS 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 and now has a 2.0L t-4 with D-jet FI engine transplant, just finishing up the details. : ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~